Does the author of the Dec 5, 2010 piece about “No cookie cutter kids” even have an argument? She/he makes it clear that there really is no difference between catholic and public schools — but then says we should preserve catholic schools because they make sure not all our kids are the same — way to argue in a circle buddy!
The government has no business paying for religious indoctrination. It is discriminatory, wasteful, and anachronistic. Even the United Nations has made this very clear. No one is advocating cookie cutter schools — i think science, arts, language, etc schools are probably a good thing. No one is saying you can’t teach your religion to your kids.
What we don’t want is discrimination and prejudice and waste. And that is exactly what Catholic schools create. The case of the kids from Morinville is a perfect example. Why don’t we put the salaries of religion teachers to something useful like ensuring every special needs student gets a teacher aid or keeping class sizes small?
If Christ is in me then I want a Christ-exorcism.
It is demeaning to humanity to suggest that the most immoral being ever imagined is present inside us all. I will have nothing to do with this god/homo-sapien boy-child who comes to judge the living and the dead in order to send human beings to eternal torment for the thought-crime of unbelief. This baby represents a height of evil that would make Hitler blush.
Fortunately there is no evidence whatsoever that Christ is in anything but the Christian’s head.
[Posted in response to http://www.markmallett.com/blog/2010/12/christ-in-you/]
China-town has a rival. You can now visit a real live Bethlehem in Edmonton! Complete with your local butcher, baker, and cross maker:
I never knew they have nail polish in the Bronze Age, but Joseph sure looks smug — and white! You can’t fault them that everyone in their church is caucasian, but it does reinforce the false idea that Jesus was white.
It reminds me of how Christians cherry-pick the bible to suit their tastes. How about a re-enactment of God ordering Jephthah to burn his daughter? (Judges 11:29-40)? Or how about a re-enactment of Jesus sending everyone to hell with his mouth swords? (Rev 19
Of course, any “sophisticated” theologian worth their Markan-priority will tell you that the Jesus birth stories in Matthew and Luke are legendary embellishments — they can’t even agree on when Jesus was born (Mat 2:1, Luk 1:5 ≠ Luk 2:1 ) or who the father was ( acts 2:30, 13:23, rom 1:3, 2tim 2:8, heb 2:16, rev 22:16 ≠ mat 1:18, 22:45, mk 12:35-37, lk 1:31-35) — but sssshhhh… don’t tell the cast of Bethlehem-town.
This is so tragic… yet another illustration of how bigoted the faith-heads are when they lay stake to their transcendent / objective / non-relativistic / absolute morality. One asks to wonder, can you be good while believing in God?
It reminds me of a Christian friend who admits she helps the less fortunate because they are fellow human beings who are suffering. It has nothing to do with God.
Christianity is immoral. You are not acting morally when you are acting on bequest of a 3rd party. You may by chance have stumbled into doing some moral; but there is no way of telling.
Perhaps Santa Claus is a better myth than Jesus, for out of that tradition comes “so be good for goodness sake”. What better reason do we need?
“If you want to know about God, you might want to talk to an atheist.” — http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep/28/nation/la-na-religion-survey-20100928
What a beautiful irony that atheists and agnostics know more about religion than believers do! I find it painful that believers think people leave a faith because they want to be immoral, or because they weren’t “true” believers, or because of some personal vendetta.
In reality, I’m an atheist for one simple reason — there is no evidence that the claims of Christianity (or any other religion for that matter) are true. I actually care about what is true, and I believe that the best path to truth that humanity has ever devised is the use of science and reason.
I’m not an atheist because I don’t understand religion or the bible. As the Pew Forum shows, atheists and agnostics tend to know more about religion that believes themselves!
Mark’s latest prejudicial assault against atheists begins with what Nietzsche called “the only saying that has any value” in the New Testament. (http://www.markmallett.com/blog/2010/12/what-is-truth/)
What is truth?
Is truth to be found in the Bronze Age scribbling of an uneducated goat herding tribe as found in the Old Testament? Is truth to be found in the polemical redacted hero myth of the gospel stories? Is truth to be found in the pontifications of a bipedal ape who claims to speak infallibly as the Vicar of Christ on earth?
The hubris of faith knows no bounds. They claim to know exactly who and what the truth is, and then turn around and call atheists arrogant. I do believe that such a thing as objective truth exists. But how can we proceed except by using science and reason, what the late great Carl Sagan called that “candle in the dark”. Religion is the greatest threat to truth humankind has ever faced.
Mark rails against totalitarianism, while encouraging his flock to bow before the ultimate celestial despot, Yahweh, and his hominid representative on earth, Ratzinger. It is to debase human dignity to submit your will to this “divine North Korea”.
Once again the straw men of Stalin, Hitler, and Potts are trotted out; the sophistries of theists never ends. Yes, religion does not hold a unique claim to totalitarianism. Show me a nation founded upon the Thomas Paine’s, Robert Ingersoll’s, and Aldous Huxley’s of this world that actually represent secular humanist ideals – and then we can talk about the dangers of a secular state. Oh wait, we already have one, it is called the USA. And warts and all, I’d still rather live there than the equivalent of the Iranian-like Christian theocracy Mark dreams about.
And, although I’ve told Mark this a thousand times, and forwarded him countless articles proving this is the case, he still ignores the fact that Hitler was a Catholic (http://www.thegoodatheist.net/2010/11/16/hitler-the-atheist-the-quiz-show/).
Conflation is Mark’s modus operandi. For example, sentences like this
“The past four hundred years has seen the development of humanist philosophical structures and satanic ideologies that have laid a foundation for a new world without God”
wherein you don’t even have to squint to read that humanism = satanism. Well, if satanism means equal rights for all, using democratic principles, the abolition of slavery, treating gays with respect, women’s rights, freedom of expression and thought, and value for the inherent worth and dignity of all — then Lucifer can have my calling card. http://www.considerhumanism.org/
Mark’s theocratic despot condones:
1. Female repression
“Wives, be subordinate to your husbands, as it is fitting in the Lord.” Colossians 3:18 (New International Version)
“Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men.” Ephesians5:5-7 (New International Version)
3. Genocide and Rape
“Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.” Moses, Numbers 31:17-18 (New International Version)
4. Division and Hatred
“Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.” Luke 12:51-53 (New International Version)
“If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple.” Jesus, Luke 14:26 (New International Version)
5. Capital Punishment for homosexuals
“If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.” Leviticus 20:13 (New International Version)
6. Capital Punishment for disobedient Children
“They shall say to the elders, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.’” Deuteronomy 21:20-21 (New International Version)
7. Eternal Torture
And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth (Matthew 8:11-12).
My angel will go ahead of you and bring you into the land of the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Canaanites, Hivites and Jebusites, and I will wipe them out. Exodus 23-23 (New International Version)
9. Repressing your thoughts
“Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding.” Proverbs 3:5 (New Living Translation 2007)
10. Fear tactics
“But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him.” Luke 12:5 (New International Version)
Once again, Mark proves that religion poisons everything.
[Edit 12-5-2010: solipsicisms -> sophistries]